Talk:KTEB

Reference or source to show the relaationship between KTEB and the AoD creators

A reference or source for the "close relationship" between Eric and Murti and KTEB is needed, which at the moment is hearsay. Any links to documentation would be worthwhile. This isn't meant to be any criticism of KTEB, which is a wonderful site and which definitely has a place on this page, but I'm not sure if the sentence about the "relationship" lives up to Wiki Raider's standards of verifiable non-partisan reportage. Also, some link to the "flaming from TRF" that is mentioned would help to make the section less partisan sounding - I'm sure the facts are true, but a reference or link proving the accusation would be good Ostercy 08:22, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Moved here. --tombraidergirl 19:50, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

References added

I've added some references about the well-documented friendship between Eric/Murti and the KTEB, and I can't think what more I can add to prove that these facts are true. There are even photos of a KTEBer with Eric when she met him, but I am not going to link to them without permission. Also, the proof that the KTEB were driven from TRF by flamers is right there in the original KTEB thread on TRF from several years ago. I'm in the process of digging up said thread to reference, but it may have been deleted by now (this was about five years ago). These aren't accusations - they are facts. It is almost impossible to 'prove' them because no one cares to believe what is said on a site unless it is Eidos-endorsed. I can't even link to Murti's blog - where he mentions the KTEB - because MySpace is considered 'spam'. Go figure. Fastlanechick 23:52, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the references :) As far as I know Wiki Raider doesn't distinguish between Eidos-endorsed and non-Eidos-endorsed sites; I think you may be confusing WR with some other Wikis :) Citing the Tomb Raider Forums, for example, carries no more or less weight than citing the KTEB forums. But any citation in the WR article about KTEB is better than no citation ... As for not being about to link to a MySpace blog, I'm surprised that you can't at least post the url, or put in a sentence saying "See Murti's blog, this url, this date"... Maybe posting screen captures of the relevent sections from the TRF and from Murti's blog as pictures would be helpful?Ostercy 00:36, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

A few sources is all we needed. Thanks. I still think some changes should be made to the article. Somehow the falming issue gets too much focus, not saying that it should not be mentioned, but the goals of the mission should be the main focus, in my opinion. (In other words: Come first.) --tombraidergirl 09:16, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

No problem, Tombraidergirl :) As for the flaming thing, the point of a wiki is to provide a truthful view of a subject (referenced, of course), and it is impossible to write anything extensively about the KTEB on other wikis (apparently doing so qualifies as 'nonsense and gibberish'). The nature of its origins is also crucial to understanding of the KTEB. I'll have a fiddle around with the order of the text if you like. Ooh yes, and linking to Murti's blog is impossible, as MySpace is considered 'spam' by the page editing system. I'll try adding it at the bottom. Fastlanechick 22:25, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I guess you preferred hearing it from tombraidergirl rather than from me :) Still, the article is much improved now. Ostercy 07:51, 6 October 2008 (UTC)